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Monday, September 22, 2014

Jesus Son of God or not? Discussion

Felix Manalo
JESUS IS GOD.. A son of GOD...
He RISED from the DEAD only GOD can do that.. but MOHAMAD still dead and any other prophet
No scientist can find JESUS REMAIN thats enought evidence why? because we found Pharoah remains which exist before JESUS..
1:11 Therefore they did set over them taskmasters to afflict them with their burdens. And they built for Pharaoh treasure cities, Pithom and RAAMSES.
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  • Aftab Khan Did Jesus’ flesh dwell in safety after his death? 
    Unless Jesus’ body never underwent ‘decay’ during his lifetime he could not be God, but if it did not undergo ‘decay’ then he was not truly human.

    Bible says that God is not man
    ‘God is not a man’ (Numbers 23:19)
    ‘For I am God, and not man’ (Hosea 11:9)

    Jesus is called a man many times in the Bible
    ‘a man who has told you the truth’ (John 8:40)

    ‘Jesus the Nazarene, a man attested to you by God with miracles and wonders and signs which God performed through Him in your midst, just as you yourselves know.’ (Acts 2:22)

    ‘He will judge the world in righteousness through a man whom He has appointed’ (Acts 17:31)

    ‘the man Christ Jesus’ (Tim. 2:5)
  • Aftab Khan Bible says that God is not a son of man
    ‘God is not a man nor a son of man’ (Numbers 23:19)
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  • Aftab Khan Jesus did not teach people that he was God
    If Jesus had been telling people that he was God, he would have complimented the man. Instead, Jesus rebuked him, denying he was good, that is, Jesus denied he was God.
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  • Aftab Khan “There is ONE God and one mediator between God and man, the HUMAN BEING Messiah Jesus” (1 Tim. 2:5).
  • Felix Manalo Titus

    2:13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
  • Aftab Khan Disciples did not believe Jesus was God
    The Acts of the Apostles in the Bible details the activity of the disciples over a period of thirty years after Jesus was raised to heaven. Throughout this period, they never referred to Jesus as God. For i
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  • Aftab Khan The salvation only comes through keeping of the commandments, was the teaching of Jesus Chrsit: 

    “And behold, one came up to him, saying, "Teacher, what good deed must I do, to have eternal life?" And he said to him, "Why do you ask me about what is good? One there is who is good. If you would enter life, keep the commandments.”(Mathew;19:16-17).
  • Aftab Khan Death of Jesus Christ on the Cross?
    The death of Jesus Christ on the cross is the centre of all Christian theology. All Christian statements about God, about creation, about sin and death have their focal point in the crucified Christ. All Christian st
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  • Felix Manalo Let me ask GOD FATHER wait

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  • Felix Manalo Are you questioning GOD FATHER statement..... shame on you..
  • Aftab Khan One fails to understand as to why our Christian brothers ignore the clear verses of OT and NT about One God, Father and go after some ambiguous terms to extract the desired meanings?

    The word ‘son’ cannot be accepted literally because in the Bible, Go
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  • Aftab Khan Please do not use foul language like "Shame on you" , do not try to put your words on me. I have respect for God, respect for Jesus Christ. Our discussion should remain with in bounds of decency. Thanks
  • Aftab Khan “There is ONE God and one mediator between God and man, the HUMAN BEING Messiah Jesus” (1 Tim. 2:5).
    God's clear statement no one should dare reject:
    "I ALONE AM GOD! I AM GOD and there is NONE LIKE ME"[Isaiah 46:9]
  • Felix Manalo Let me ask GOD FATHER wait

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  • Aftab Khan See the original from Greek, this is explained by me above.
  • Felix Manalo Yes or No khan be smart...
  • Felix Manalo What your answer Khan
  • Aftab Khan Son υἱός uios 5207 a son a prim. word
    STRONGS NT 5207a: υἱός τοῦ ἀνθρώπουυἱός τοῦ ἀνθρώπου, the Sept. for אָדָם בֶּן, Chaldean אֲנָשׁ בַּר, son of man; it is:
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  • Aftab Khan If there was only one verse in whole Bible one may agree to interpretation but how the hundreds of times it is mentioned about One God, none like Him is rejected? 
    "I ALONE AM GOD! I AM GOD and there is NONE LIKE ME"[Isaiah 46:9]
    “There is ONE God and one mediator between God and man, the HUMAN BEING Messiah Jesus” (1 Tim. 2:5).
  • Felix Manalo Your pathetic Khan Yes or No question
    You cant choose...your answer...
  • Aftab Khan The Bible says that Jesus denied he is God
    Jesus spoke to a man who had called him ‘good,’ asking him, ‘Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone.’ (Luke 18:19)
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  • Aftab Khan The Bible says that Jesus was God’s servant
    ‘Behold, My servant, whom I have chosen, in whom My soul is well pleased.’ (Matt 12:18) Since Jesus is God’s servant, Jesus can not be God.
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  • Aftab Khan The Bible says that at times of weakness angels strengthened Jesus
    God ,however, does not need to be strengthened. Human need to be strengthened; God does not because God is All-Powerful. If Jesus had to be strengthened, he must not be God.
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  • Aftab Khan The Bible says Jesus regarded himself and God as two
    ‘I am one who testifies for myself; my other witness is the Father.’ (John 8:17-18:)
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  • Felix Manalo 3 or 2 letters i need from you A. Aftab Khan YES OR NO

  • Aftab Khan Raymond E Brown and Bart Ehrman, among others, state that most biblical scholars have concluded Peter is not the author, and consider the epistle 2 Peter pseudepigraphical. Reasons for this include its linguistic differences from 1 Peter, its apparent...See More
  • Felix Manalo Nonsense aftab khan you are incapable answering my simple question...
  • Aftab Khan Insulting language does not add to strength of argument. It's statement by Peter in book which is doubtful. May or may Not be word of God. 50 times son of God used in NT not once "Son The God."
  • Felix Manalo A simple question you cant answer khan
  • Aftab Khan I have answered clearly but you don't want to understand . It's your sweat wish I cannot thrust it.
  • Aftab Khan In the New Testament seventeen passages, wherein the Father is styled one or only God, while there is not a single passage in which the Son is so styled.

    There are 320 passages in which the Father is absolutely, and by way of eminence, called God; whi
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  • Felix Manalo You post thousands of letters khan its only YES OR NO questions just choose ok...
  • Felix Manalo People are WAITING for your answer KHAN.
  • Aftab Khan No one need to wait, we have given our candid views on this topic, let's leave it to the wisdom of readers to draw his/her own conclusions. Circular arguments are unending.
  • Felix Manalo I dont need your view or your opinion only answer YES or NO.
    1) JESUS not biological son of God 
    2) Jesus not God 

    3) Hence :
    Trinity is fake doctrine. 
    God is One, Single 

    If John the Baptist heard and understood that Jesus was biological "Son of God" or "God", why didn't he become a disciple of Jesus?
    And why didn't all, or even most, of John's disciples become Jesus' disciples?
    Most of John's disciples remained loyal to him, even after his death, and a sect of his followers persisted for centuries.
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